Comments on: Water Fluoridation: A Communist Plot? A Nazi Scheme?

By: Michelle McNees

Michelle McNees — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:46:14 +0000

This SITE IS PRO COMMUNIST, Your A TROLL LYING TO THE PEOPLE!

By: Peter Bottenberg

Peter Bottenberg — Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:29:43 +0000

As a dentists involved in research & teaching about (amongst others) fluoride, I also did some private and unfunded research on the fluoridation mythos by myself. The initiation of this was that I found one of my papers on fluorosis cited next to Dr Bronner, Hitler and Stalin. Thanks to your website, I have found some more about the famous communist plot.

By: Right Wingers Don’t Have a Monopoly on Conspiracy Theories | The Omnipotent Poobah Speaks!

Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:57:11 +0000

[…] don’t have a monopoly on conspiracy theories. Even chock-a-block with Kenyan Kommunists, fluoride brainwashing, and death panels, their opponents on the left can sometimes be just as single-minded in their […]

By: skepticalvegan

skepticalvegan — Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:47:23 +0000

I avoided that one because its waaaay over done. You can hardly find a story about fluoridation that doesn’t jokingly reference that movie.

By: Phil

Phil — Fri, 07 Jun 2013 07:30:58 +0000

How can you discuss conspiracy theories about water fluoridation without mentioning the biggest crackpot of all, Brig. Gen. Jack D Ripper of “Doctor Strangelove”? He might have been fictional, but there are all too many real people who think just like him.

Let’s just hope that none ever get in command of nuclear weapons.

By: skepticalvegan

skepticalvegan — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:09:39 +0000

I’m hoping to find not just an interpretation of the ‘lack of evidence’ from these four men, but the real story with facts.

What real story? The real story is that there is no evidence for the claim.

If there are no facts from these four guys, there is also no facts about what is fact about flouridation in this article as well...So I ask the question, where is YOUR evidence for what you believe about flouridation and where to find it?

That is because the post was written to address this specific conspiracy claim, not address all issues surrounding fluoridation. I have numerous other posts other other related issues. Please seem my other posts here. Here is also some info on the benefits and safety of community water fluoridation.

Calling some people conspiracy theorists is the epitome of perpetuating myths about people because it is like calling someone a n*****, a savage or any other name calling.

No. Racial slurs are not akin to pointing out when someone clearly is promoting a false conspiracy narrative.

With this technology, we can make no opinions on people we haven’t met or from their writings. It’s a flaw of the technology. We barely get to know and understand thoroughly the complex people with live with on a daily basis and know for years. Either you say something good about a person or you don’t. Either you interpret something they did in a negative light or in a positive light – facts are built from the approach, too, and that is more about the speaker than the person being talked about. I know nothing of the person that wrote this or why nor what those experiences are that have taken this position. And that’s what this boils down to when you focus on people and stereotyping them good or bad rather than on events and systematic processes of communities they are attached to, you’ve interjected your own views. Even someone whose gone through a traumatic life experience isn’t less capable of seeing ‘reality’ than someone who hasn’t – but we have prejudice built in for quick judgment and there is a social dominance in how we treat certain people and groups. In fact, if someone experiences something like a tornado, we don’t treat them the same as someone whose been through a genocide even though they may have witnessed as much death. In fact, often traumatic experiences heightens their senses, in a positive way, to things some of us simply ignore and those who are ignoring don’t want to see it, too. So It just simply isn’t so black and white at all anywhere and I guess that’s some of why this writing here has only added more questions for me on the topic but hasn’t proved to me anything of fact, either. The best we can do is talk about ourselves and position our writings within our own lives and make that known and it’s not easy. It’s easier to write and leave our own vulnerabilities out of it.

I don't see how this postmodern hand waving addresses anything in the post or changes the evidence (or lack of) for the specific claim that this post was addressing.

By: karen

karen — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:52:32 +0000

I accidently found myself here through watching the Dr. Bronner film on Netflix. Interesting write up, but is this the pot calling the kettle black? The whole time I’m reading this, I’m hoping to find not just an interpretation of the ‘lack of evidence’ from these four men, but the real story with facts. If there are no facts from these four guys, there is also no facts about what is fact about flouridation in this article as well. Just facts about these guys. Anybody can find flaws in people’s lives and words…and that’s what this is. I want more. So I ask the question, where is YOUR evidence for what you believe about flouridation and where to find it? And if it on some other page, I’d prefer the direct reference. I haven’t searched because this is all new to me and I missed this – even on television, I guess.I wouldn’t know where to start. It simply wasn’t one of my major concerns cause I had usually had well water where I lived.
The other problem I have with this, as any topic that has public and political controversy is that the truth is usually complicated and, as in my work on women’s history, if I’m given a few minutes to talk with someone, I couldn’t possibly give all the background research….to do that, you have to write a book yourself. In other words, part of the problem is there is no way 1 or 2 hour stories, let alone a few paragraphs can give all the details, and in fact, the truth is usually embedded in a bunch of other mythological beliefs about our society. I say, even if you witness something first hand in your own life, what you see and know about the event depends on your location, your own ability and way of reacting to that event within your own background. Calling some people conspiracy theorists is the epitome of perpetuating myths about people because it is like calling someone a nigger, a savage or any other name calling. It’s intent is not to respect from the get go and from there no address with respect another’s different view and if we
silence and not respect views different than our own and prejudge, we learn nothing. With this technology, we can make no opinions on people we haven’t met or from their writings. It’s a flaw of the technology. We barely get to know and understand thoroughly the complex people with live with on a daily basis and know for years. Either you say something good about a person or you don’t. Either you interpret something they did in a negative light or in a positive light – facts are built from the approach, too, and that is more about the speaker than the person being talked about. I know nothing of the person that wrote this or why nor what those experiences are that have taken this position. And that’s what this boils down to when you focus on people and stereotyping them good or bad rather than on events and systematic processes of communities they are attached to, you’ve interjected your own views. Even someone whose gone through a traumatic life experience isn’t less capable of seeing ‘reality’ than someone who hasn’t – but we have prejudice built in for quick judgment and there is a social dominance in how we treat certain people and groups. In fact, if someone experiences something like a tornado, we don’t treat them the same as someone whose been through a genocide even though they may have witnessed as much death. In fact, often traumatic experiences heightens their senses, in a positive way, to things some of us simply ignore and those who are ignoring don’t want to see it, too. So It just simply isn’t so black and white at all anywhere and I guess that’s some of why this writing here has only added more questions for me on the topic but hasn’t proved to me anything of fact, either. The best we can do is talk about ourselves and position our writings within our own lives and make that known and it’s not easy. It’s easier to write and leave our own vulnerabilities out of it.

By: michael b baker

michael b baker — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:29:33 +0000

i admit… for many reasons i don’t read everything.. I have an unfair advantage perhaps, which i’ve attempted to explain in past comment.. i detoxed .. & had a experience that litterally ‘blew my mind – OPEN..” .. i did just post this at the fl. community pg mentioned : for the Pro Side view of Fluoride go to : http://skepticalvegan.com/

https://www.facebook.com/LostAltusAmerica?ref=hl

By: michael b baker

michael b baker — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:09:14 +0000

appreciate you

By: skepticalvegan

skepticalvegan — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:24:51 +0000

"I have a Fluoride Free fbook community pg..& never go to Conspiracy ?Theory??? …. (
it plays into the hands of the Thugs/puppets running this joint
..as u2..)"

I'm just gonna leave that right there with my emphasis added. I'll also add that Ive seen your page, "Altus, Oklahoma, USA- Fluoridation of Water Supply", and it does include a number of conspiratorial things. This includes a link to "FLUORIDATION - Mind Control of the Masses", a document which promotes the very conspiracy this blog post is responding to.

"it accumulates..drop by drop by drop in the protecting bone surrounding the Pineal Gland (not the gland itself )"

I think you are confused about your anatomy here. It is the pituitary gland that is nestled in a boney structure. The pineal gland is surrounded by brain tissue. If you wish to discuss the subject of the pineal gland go back to one of the many earlier comments on the subject. Stop derailing and repeating yourself. Your claims have been answered and you have not addressed any of the past criticism. The best you mustered up was this near-indecipherable comment:

i’ll look for it..an admittance of Not Knowing it’s function/abilities..FULLY- your ‘quotes’ are fingernails. - since I can’t ‘observe’ your claim to drinking FL my questioning you was lame….& you gave the answer you Had to give probably.. Didn’t S.Hawkins say something to the effect science is perhaps presumptuous to think it will ever have the Theory to Everything?….seems ProFL has the Theory to Everything in Relation to Fl & just as short of the mark- for same reasons..( & last I heard Hawkins wasn’t exactly jiggy with multi-dimensions..jeeezzz ) Here’s a M-theory: ALL layers considered: science (of the missing chromosome ‘brain’ ) & metaphysics (pineal & dimension stuff ), logical, level-headed-common- sense, a personal Observation of a mild skin dis-ease cessation ..& Stats….Conclusion/Bet of a good Poker Player : Potential Benefits aren’t worth the risk/bet against the Potential Hazards of INGESTING FL..(esp. when/where topical treatments available ) Discover/Make All the Laws you care to- You Are Not AWAKE…& science will Never do that for you- inherently incapable..On the other hand, it’s a ‘thou mayest’ kinda deal..(arguably) & your programing … re: your recommendation of FL.. You are playing into the Luciferian Control..& your use of ”Fear Mongering”??? -also a luciferian(control) trick you’ve fallen for..& are perpetuating…again; You Are Not Awake. .&your ‘scientific mind’ /intellect is your invisible prison..&you are Hyp-M.O.-tized..sorry- but that is actually a fact..a truth…which I have Observed..( from an unfair advantage pt.- I Am Awake & actually lookin back).. “…tell them a truth to change beliefs & they’ll act like addicts.”-J. McDevitt/Deepsix